I'd love to have him as DC. That's a slam-dunk no-brainer. It'd be even better if a couple of defensive coaches in addition to Hayes moved on or retired and Brent was able to pick their replacements.
I am not as sold on him panning out as a head coach as many KSU fans apparently are, but the bottom line is that anyone we get to follow The Legend is going to be a dice roll, and hiring Brent Venables would be a very exciting and worthy dice roll in my eyes. If I make a list of realistic, viable candidates, he'd be on it, and I'd be as excited about him as anyone else on the list.
I don't necessarily like the specific scenario mentioned in the kcatty thread. I'd want it to be more open-ended. Why only one more year for Snyder? If he's already decided that the most he's going to continue coaching is one season, then he's already retired in his mind and he should just go ahead and retire. I don't think he's decided anything like that at all. I think he'd coach 3-4 more years if he could handle it physically and mentally. I guess in theory it could be the desire to get 200 wins while having a farewell tour, but that doesn't sound very real-world or Snyder-like to me.
As long as the contract is air-tight that BV will get the job when Snyder retires, BV shouldn't care whether that is 1 year, 2 years, or 4 years. The contract could simply be written with a window (say, 5 years) and include some other specifics, such as BV getting to choose replacements for staff members as coaches come and go, maybe less money for Snyder and more for Venables and the staff, and so forth. Would Snyder want to stick around when he is ceding that much control? I doubt it, but this is a message board, so wild speculation is allowed.
Where would the risk be with that scenario? Some might say, well if Venables isn't promised the job in one year he wouldn't come. Huh? Why? If he was in a hurry or overly driven to be a head coach he'd already be one. Another argument might be that some other school could come along and snatch him up as a HC if he has to wait too long, but if he's that itchy to jump ship then we shouldn't bring him to KSU in the first place because he wouldn't be a long-term fit.
For me, the only thing that's been missing in Snyder 2.0 is a defensive staff like we had in our Snyder 1.0 glory years. Everything else has been pretty appealing in my eyes. Therefore, my attraction to Venables is having a strong DC who can build a defensive staff like we had in Snyder 1.0 (who also happen to be young, push-the-envelope recruiters, which I also feel we had during the best years of Snyder 1.0). Really, 3-4 more years with Snyder, only with a defensive staff led by Venables, is more appealing to me than Venables coming in and replacing Snyder either immediately or after one season. But that's just me.
Leland
I am not as sold on him panning out as a head coach as many KSU fans apparently are, but the bottom line is that anyone we get to follow The Legend is going to be a dice roll, and hiring Brent Venables would be a very exciting and worthy dice roll in my eyes. If I make a list of realistic, viable candidates, he'd be on it, and I'd be as excited about him as anyone else on the list.
I don't necessarily like the specific scenario mentioned in the kcatty thread. I'd want it to be more open-ended. Why only one more year for Snyder? If he's already decided that the most he's going to continue coaching is one season, then he's already retired in his mind and he should just go ahead and retire. I don't think he's decided anything like that at all. I think he'd coach 3-4 more years if he could handle it physically and mentally. I guess in theory it could be the desire to get 200 wins while having a farewell tour, but that doesn't sound very real-world or Snyder-like to me.
As long as the contract is air-tight that BV will get the job when Snyder retires, BV shouldn't care whether that is 1 year, 2 years, or 4 years. The contract could simply be written with a window (say, 5 years) and include some other specifics, such as BV getting to choose replacements for staff members as coaches come and go, maybe less money for Snyder and more for Venables and the staff, and so forth. Would Snyder want to stick around when he is ceding that much control? I doubt it, but this is a message board, so wild speculation is allowed.
Where would the risk be with that scenario? Some might say, well if Venables isn't promised the job in one year he wouldn't come. Huh? Why? If he was in a hurry or overly driven to be a head coach he'd already be one. Another argument might be that some other school could come along and snatch him up as a HC if he has to wait too long, but if he's that itchy to jump ship then we shouldn't bring him to KSU in the first place because he wouldn't be a long-term fit.
For me, the only thing that's been missing in Snyder 2.0 is a defensive staff like we had in our Snyder 1.0 glory years. Everything else has been pretty appealing in my eyes. Therefore, my attraction to Venables is having a strong DC who can build a defensive staff like we had in Snyder 1.0 (who also happen to be young, push-the-envelope recruiters, which I also feel we had during the best years of Snyder 1.0). Really, 3-4 more years with Snyder, only with a defensive staff led by Venables, is more appealing to me than Venables coming in and replacing Snyder either immediately or after one season. But that's just me.
Leland
