I wanted to start a couple of threads trying to do a comparative analysis of the makeups of the Big 12 teams rosters as we close in on the start of the season. Sorry if these get a little long or wordy.
What I thought would be fun is for me to lay the information about each group as they head into the season and then let you respond by ranking them 1-10. This is based on how they stand right now, going into the year. If you are that poster that always feels the need to respond with "we don't have enough info, let's just wait and see", go find another thread to ruin.
I am doing them in alphabetical order:
Baylor Projected starters: *
6'3 G Jared Butler - 16.0 points, 3.2 reb, 3.1 assists, 1.6 steals (2020 Preseason POY, 2019 1st team Big 12, 2019 Wooden Finalist)
42/38/78
6'4 G Macio Teague - 13.9 points, 4.6 reb, 1.9 assists, 1.0 steals (2019 Big 12 2nd Team, 2020 Preseason All Big 12)
46/36/85
6'2 G Davion Mitchell - 9.9 points, 2.7 rebs, 3.8 assists, 1.5 steals (2019 Big 12 3rd Team, 2019 All Defensive Team)
47/32/66
Returning contributors:
6'9 G Matthew Mayer - 4.8 points, 1.9 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals
42/38/69
Key Losses:
Devonte Bandoo - 7.6 points, 3.6 rebs, 1.5 assists, 0.6 steals
39/39/74
Key additions:
6'3 G Adam Flagler (RS)
Former Big South Freshman of the year at Presbyterian
15.9 points, 3.4 rebs, 1.3 assists, 0.8 steals
53/39/84
*Baylor lists Mark Vital as a Guard, but I consider him their PF.
Iowa State Projected Starters: *
6'3 G Rasir Bolton - 14.7 points, 3.4 rebs, 2.8 assists, 1.1 steals
35/34/85
5'9 G Tyler Harris (transfer from Memphis) 8.7 points, 1.8 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals (2018 AAC All Freshman)
38/36/85
6'4 G Jalen Coleman-Lands (transfer from DePaul) 11.1 points, 2.7 rebs, 1.2 assists, 0.7 steals
43/32/82
Returning Contributors:
6'1 G Tre Jackson - 4.3 points, 1.7 rebs, 1.3 assists, 0.8 steals
34/34/72
Key Losses:
Tyrese Haliburton - 15.2 points, 5.9 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 2.5 steals (2nd team Big 12, 12th pick in NBA Draft)
59/42/82
Prentiss Nixon - 9.5 points, 3.3 rebs, 2.1 assists, 1.3 steals
Key additions:
Tyler Harris
Jalen Coleman-lands
,
* Blake Hinson is a transfer G/F from Ole Miss who could be a starter in a 4 guard lineup (similar to Vital at Baylor)
Kansas Projected Starters: *
6'5 G Marcus Garrett - 9.2 points, 4.5 rebs, 4.6 assists, 1.8 steals (2019 Big 12 3rd Team, 18, 19 All Defensive team, 2019 DPOY, 2020 Preseason 1st Team)
47/33/61
6'6 G Christian Braun - 5.3 ponts, 2.9 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.7 steals (2019 Big 12 All-Freshman team)
41/44/73
6'5 G Ochai Agbaji - 10.0 points, 4.2 rebs, 2.0, assists, 1.2 steals
52/34/67
Returning Contributors:
None
Key Losses:
6'2 G Devon Dotson, 18.1 points, 4.1 rebs, 4.0 assists, 2.1 steals (consensus 2nd team All-American)
54/31/83
Key Additions:
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* I think there is a very good possibility that Braun gets pushed back to the bench by Bryce Thompson.
Kansas State Projected starters:
6'2 G Mike McGuirl - 6.9 points, 2.4 rebs, 1.8 assists, 0.9 steals
46/40/66
6'4 G DaJuan Gordon - 6.3 points, 3.4 rebs, 0.7 assists, 1.3 steals
52/33/66
Returning Contributors:
None
Key Losses:
Xavier Sneed - 14.2 points, 4.8 rebs, 1.7 assists, 1.8 steals
43/30/69
Cartier Diarra - 13.3 points, 3.8 rebs, 4.2 assists, 1.8 steals
51/31/67
David Sloan - 5.3 points, 1.3 rebs, 2.3 assists, 0.7 steals
47/27/55
Key additions:
Nijel Pack
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Oklahoma Projected Starters*
6'2 G Devion Harmon - 7.4 points, 1.8 rebs, 2.0 assists, 1.1 steals
38/34/70
6'5 G Austin Reaves - 14.7 points, 5.3 rebs, 3.0 assists, 1.0 steals (Preseason All Big 12)
48/26/85
6'3 G Elijah Harkless (transfer from Cal State Northridge) 10.7 points, 5.8 rebs, 2.9 assists, 1.7 steals
48/36/70
Returning Contributors:
6'5 G Alondes Williams 6.0 points, 1.9 rebs, .6 assists, .4 steals
53/28/64
Key losses:
Jamal Bienemy 5.2 points, 4.0 rebs, 2.8 assists, 1.1 steals
Key Newcomers:
6'1 G Umoja Gibson (North Texas) 14.5 points, 2.2 rebs, 1.9 assists, 1.4 steals (2018 Conf USA All Freshman, 2019 2nd team All Conf USA)
44/39/85
, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/joshua-o-garro-256500
*Harkless, Williams and Gibson are all battling for that third spot
Oklahoma State Projected Starters:
6'5 G Isaac Likekele - 10.9 points, 5.6 rebs, 4.5 assists, 1.9 steals
48/21/66
6'3 G Ferron Flavors (Cal Baptist) 13.5 points, 3.5 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals
42/38/75
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Returning Contributors:
6'3 G Avery Anderson - 4.2 points, 2.1 rebs, 1.4 assists, 1.0 steals
43/08/80
6'3 G Chris Harris JR - 3.4 points, 1.1 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.6 steals
41/20/36
6'8 G Keylan Boone - 2.7 points, 2.3 rebs, 0.2 assists, 0.4 steals
46/34/63
Key Departures
Lindy Waters - 10.5 points, 4.2 rebs, 2.4 assists, 1.2 steals
Thomas Dzigawa - 9.0 points, 1.4 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.6 steals
Key Additions
Cade Cunningham (Preseason Big 12 Newcomer of they Year, Preseason Big 12 First Team)
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/rondel-walker-184077, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/donovan-williams-221630
Texas Projected Starters*
6'2 G Matt Coleman - 12.7 points, 3.0 rebs, 3.4 assists, 1.3 steals (2019 3rd Team Big 12, 2020 Preseason 1st Team Big 12)
47/40/80
6'4 G Andrew Jones - 11.5 points, 2.3 rebs, 1.9 assists, 0.7 steals
44/38/72
6'3 G Courtney Ramey - 10.9 points, 3.9 rebs, 2.9 assists, 1.0 steals (2020 Preseason Big 12)
46/31/71
Key Contributors
6'5 G Jace Febres - 9.4 points, 2.4 rebs, 0.9 assists, 0.6 steals
38/37/81
6'6 G Donovan Williams - 3.3 points, 1.0 rebs, 0.3 assists, 0.5 steals
48/24/71
Key Departures:
None
Key Newcomers
None
* Texas returns every minute from their backcourt
TCU Projected Starters
6'5 G RJ Nembhard - 12.1 points, 3.7 rebs, 3,5 assists, 1.0 steals
40/31/74
6'4 G PJ Fuller - 5.7 points, 1.8 rebs, 1.5 assists, 0.6 steals
44/25/82
6'4 G Francisco Farabello - 3.7 points, 1.4 rebs, 2.2 assists, 0.8 steals
41/41/85
Key Contributors:
None
Key departures:
Desmond Bane (2019 1st Team All-Big 12, 30th pick in Rd 1 NBA Draft)
Jaire Grayer - 7.5 points, 4.5 rebs, 0.5 assists, o.7 steals
Edric Dennis - 6.2 points, 1.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 0.8 steals
Key Newcomers:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/mike-miles-209615, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/taryn-todd-235832
Texas Tech Projected Starters: *
6'4 G Kyler Edwards - 11.4 points, 4.0 rebs, 3.1 assists, 0.9 steals (2020 Preseason Big 12)
48/32/77
6'2 G Mac McClung (transfer Georgetown) - 14.2 points, 2.8 rebs, 2.2 assists, 1.4 steals (2019 Big East All Freshman, 2020 Preseason Big 12)
6'6 G Terrence Shannon - 9.8 points, 4.1 rebs, 1.0 assists, 0.9 steals (2019 Big 12 All Freshman)
52/26/83
Key Contributors:
6'6 G Kevin McCullar - 6.0 points, 3.2 rebs, 0.7 assists, 1.2 steals
Key Departures:
Jahmius Ramsey (2019 BIg 12 ROY, 43rd pick in NBA Draft)
Davide Moretti (2018 Bug 12 3rd team)
Chris Clarke - 5.6 points, 6.6 rebs, 4.6 assists, 0.9 steals
Key Additions:
Mac McClung
Jamarious Burton (Wichita State Transfer) 7.9 points, 3.4 rebs, 3.4 assists, 0.5 steals
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/nimari-burnett-183342, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/micah-peavy-183043, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/chibuzo-agbo-209002
* Minutes are at a premium here with Burton and Burnett not even projected starters.
West Virginia Projected Starters:
6'2 G Miles McBride - 9.5 points, 2.4 rebs, 1.8 assists, 1.1 steals (Big 12 All-Freshman)
45/30/75
6'4 G Taz Sherman - 5.3 points, 0.8 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.6 steals
44/33/86
6'0 G Jordan McCabe - 4.5 points, 1.3 rebs, 2.1 assists, 0.5 steals
50/21/76
Key Contributors:
6'3 G Sean McNeil - 5.5 points, 1.2 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.3 steals
45/33/81
Key Departures:
Jermaine Haley - 8.9 points, 4.3 rebs, 1.9 assists, 1.2 steals
Key Newcomers:
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What I thought would be fun is for me to lay the information about each group as they head into the season and then let you respond by ranking them 1-10. This is based on how they stand right now, going into the year. If you are that poster that always feels the need to respond with "we don't have enough info, let's just wait and see", go find another thread to ruin.
I am doing them in alphabetical order:
Baylor Projected starters: *
6'3 G Jared Butler - 16.0 points, 3.2 reb, 3.1 assists, 1.6 steals (2020 Preseason POY, 2019 1st team Big 12, 2019 Wooden Finalist)
42/38/78
6'4 G Macio Teague - 13.9 points, 4.6 reb, 1.9 assists, 1.0 steals (2019 Big 12 2nd Team, 2020 Preseason All Big 12)
46/36/85
6'2 G Davion Mitchell - 9.9 points, 2.7 rebs, 3.8 assists, 1.5 steals (2019 Big 12 3rd Team, 2019 All Defensive Team)
47/32/66
Returning contributors:
6'9 G Matthew Mayer - 4.8 points, 1.9 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals
42/38/69
Key Losses:
Devonte Bandoo - 7.6 points, 3.6 rebs, 1.5 assists, 0.6 steals
39/39/74
Key additions:
6'3 G Adam Flagler (RS)
Former Big South Freshman of the year at Presbyterian
15.9 points, 3.4 rebs, 1.3 assists, 0.8 steals
53/39/84
*Baylor lists Mark Vital as a Guard, but I consider him their PF.
Iowa State Projected Starters: *
6'3 G Rasir Bolton - 14.7 points, 3.4 rebs, 2.8 assists, 1.1 steals
35/34/85
5'9 G Tyler Harris (transfer from Memphis) 8.7 points, 1.8 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals (2018 AAC All Freshman)
38/36/85
6'4 G Jalen Coleman-Lands (transfer from DePaul) 11.1 points, 2.7 rebs, 1.2 assists, 0.7 steals
43/32/82
Returning Contributors:
6'1 G Tre Jackson - 4.3 points, 1.7 rebs, 1.3 assists, 0.8 steals
34/34/72
Key Losses:
Tyrese Haliburton - 15.2 points, 5.9 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 2.5 steals (2nd team Big 12, 12th pick in NBA Draft)
59/42/82
Prentiss Nixon - 9.5 points, 3.3 rebs, 2.1 assists, 1.3 steals
Key additions:
Tyler Harris
Jalen Coleman-lands
,
* Blake Hinson is a transfer G/F from Ole Miss who could be a starter in a 4 guard lineup (similar to Vital at Baylor)
Kansas Projected Starters: *
6'5 G Marcus Garrett - 9.2 points, 4.5 rebs, 4.6 assists, 1.8 steals (2019 Big 12 3rd Team, 18, 19 All Defensive team, 2019 DPOY, 2020 Preseason 1st Team)
47/33/61
6'6 G Christian Braun - 5.3 ponts, 2.9 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.7 steals (2019 Big 12 All-Freshman team)
41/44/73
6'5 G Ochai Agbaji - 10.0 points, 4.2 rebs, 2.0, assists, 1.2 steals
52/34/67
Returning Contributors:
None
Key Losses:
6'2 G Devon Dotson, 18.1 points, 4.1 rebs, 4.0 assists, 2.1 steals (consensus 2nd team All-American)
54/31/83
Key Additions:
, , ,
* I think there is a very good possibility that Braun gets pushed back to the bench by Bryce Thompson.
Kansas State Projected starters:
6'2 G Mike McGuirl - 6.9 points, 2.4 rebs, 1.8 assists, 0.9 steals
46/40/66
6'4 G DaJuan Gordon - 6.3 points, 3.4 rebs, 0.7 assists, 1.3 steals
52/33/66
Returning Contributors:
None
Key Losses:
Xavier Sneed - 14.2 points, 4.8 rebs, 1.7 assists, 1.8 steals
43/30/69
Cartier Diarra - 13.3 points, 3.8 rebs, 4.2 assists, 1.8 steals
51/31/67
David Sloan - 5.3 points, 1.3 rebs, 2.3 assists, 0.7 steals
47/27/55
Key additions:
Nijel Pack
, ,
Oklahoma Projected Starters*
6'2 G Devion Harmon - 7.4 points, 1.8 rebs, 2.0 assists, 1.1 steals
38/34/70
6'5 G Austin Reaves - 14.7 points, 5.3 rebs, 3.0 assists, 1.0 steals (Preseason All Big 12)
48/26/85
6'3 G Elijah Harkless (transfer from Cal State Northridge) 10.7 points, 5.8 rebs, 2.9 assists, 1.7 steals
48/36/70
Returning Contributors:
6'5 G Alondes Williams 6.0 points, 1.9 rebs, .6 assists, .4 steals
53/28/64
Key losses:
Jamal Bienemy 5.2 points, 4.0 rebs, 2.8 assists, 1.1 steals
Key Newcomers:
6'1 G Umoja Gibson (North Texas) 14.5 points, 2.2 rebs, 1.9 assists, 1.4 steals (2018 Conf USA All Freshman, 2019 2nd team All Conf USA)
44/39/85
, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/joshua-o-garro-256500
*Harkless, Williams and Gibson are all battling for that third spot
Oklahoma State Projected Starters:
6'5 G Isaac Likekele - 10.9 points, 5.6 rebs, 4.5 assists, 1.9 steals
48/21/66
6'3 G Ferron Flavors (Cal Baptist) 13.5 points, 3.5 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals
42/38/75
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Returning Contributors:
6'3 G Avery Anderson - 4.2 points, 2.1 rebs, 1.4 assists, 1.0 steals
43/08/80
6'3 G Chris Harris JR - 3.4 points, 1.1 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.6 steals
41/20/36
6'8 G Keylan Boone - 2.7 points, 2.3 rebs, 0.2 assists, 0.4 steals
46/34/63
Key Departures
Lindy Waters - 10.5 points, 4.2 rebs, 2.4 assists, 1.2 steals
Thomas Dzigawa - 9.0 points, 1.4 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.6 steals
Key Additions
Cade Cunningham (Preseason Big 12 Newcomer of they Year, Preseason Big 12 First Team)
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/rondel-walker-184077, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/donovan-williams-221630
Texas Projected Starters*
6'2 G Matt Coleman - 12.7 points, 3.0 rebs, 3.4 assists, 1.3 steals (2019 3rd Team Big 12, 2020 Preseason 1st Team Big 12)
47/40/80
6'4 G Andrew Jones - 11.5 points, 2.3 rebs, 1.9 assists, 0.7 steals
44/38/72
6'3 G Courtney Ramey - 10.9 points, 3.9 rebs, 2.9 assists, 1.0 steals (2020 Preseason Big 12)
46/31/71
Key Contributors
6'5 G Jace Febres - 9.4 points, 2.4 rebs, 0.9 assists, 0.6 steals
38/37/81
6'6 G Donovan Williams - 3.3 points, 1.0 rebs, 0.3 assists, 0.5 steals
48/24/71
Key Departures:
None
Key Newcomers
None
* Texas returns every minute from their backcourt
TCU Projected Starters
6'5 G RJ Nembhard - 12.1 points, 3.7 rebs, 3,5 assists, 1.0 steals
40/31/74
6'4 G PJ Fuller - 5.7 points, 1.8 rebs, 1.5 assists, 0.6 steals
44/25/82
6'4 G Francisco Farabello - 3.7 points, 1.4 rebs, 2.2 assists, 0.8 steals
41/41/85
Key Contributors:
None
Key departures:
Desmond Bane (2019 1st Team All-Big 12, 30th pick in Rd 1 NBA Draft)
Jaire Grayer - 7.5 points, 4.5 rebs, 0.5 assists, o.7 steals
Edric Dennis - 6.2 points, 1.6 rebs, 2.3 assists, 0.8 steals
Key Newcomers:
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/mike-miles-209615, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/taryn-todd-235832
Texas Tech Projected Starters: *
6'4 G Kyler Edwards - 11.4 points, 4.0 rebs, 3.1 assists, 0.9 steals (2020 Preseason Big 12)
48/32/77
6'2 G Mac McClung (transfer Georgetown) - 14.2 points, 2.8 rebs, 2.2 assists, 1.4 steals (2019 Big East All Freshman, 2020 Preseason Big 12)
6'6 G Terrence Shannon - 9.8 points, 4.1 rebs, 1.0 assists, 0.9 steals (2019 Big 12 All Freshman)
52/26/83
Key Contributors:
6'6 G Kevin McCullar - 6.0 points, 3.2 rebs, 0.7 assists, 1.2 steals
Key Departures:
Jahmius Ramsey (2019 BIg 12 ROY, 43rd pick in NBA Draft)
Davide Moretti (2018 Bug 12 3rd team)
Chris Clarke - 5.6 points, 6.6 rebs, 4.6 assists, 0.9 steals
Key Additions:
Mac McClung
Jamarious Burton (Wichita State Transfer) 7.9 points, 3.4 rebs, 3.4 assists, 0.5 steals
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/nimari-burnett-183342, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/micah-peavy-183043, https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/chibuzo-agbo-209002
* Minutes are at a premium here with Burton and Burnett not even projected starters.
West Virginia Projected Starters:
6'2 G Miles McBride - 9.5 points, 2.4 rebs, 1.8 assists, 1.1 steals (Big 12 All-Freshman)
45/30/75
6'4 G Taz Sherman - 5.3 points, 0.8 rebs, 0.8 assists, 0.6 steals
44/33/86
6'0 G Jordan McCabe - 4.5 points, 1.3 rebs, 2.1 assists, 0.5 steals
50/21/76
Key Contributors:
6'3 G Sean McNeil - 5.5 points, 1.2 rebs, 0.5 assists, 0.3 steals
45/33/81
Key Departures:
Jermaine Haley - 8.9 points, 4.3 rebs, 1.9 assists, 1.2 steals
Key Newcomers:
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