Most of the anti-Weber crowd has only seen success during the Frank Martin years. They really know nothing else... there's only one way to achieve success in their minds. Hartman's approach, even Kruger's approach was very similar to Weber's approach, but this crowd is solely focused on Martin's approach. In their world, only a flashy minded coach can be successful at K-State. I now realize what Fitz has been saying this on the podcasts, but it has just now sunk-in for me.
