I didnt hear the radio interview, but I saw the thread where @FITZ and Clinkscales were comparing K-State football circa 1989 to KU football when Beaty walked into Lawrence. I don't know the details of that conversation but I wanted to throw around some numbers, in addition to my running tally of KU football futility.
K-State football was REALLY bad when Bill Snyder took over. Decades upon decades of losing, and losing at an impressive clip. In fact, before defeated North Texas in Coach Snyder's first season (1989) the Wildcats had lost 14 straight football games, and hadn't won a football game in the previous 28 attempts. In this stretch, K-State lost 7 straight conference games from the time they beat KU in 1986 and tied KU in the 1987 "Toilet Bowl".....another 20 consecutive conference losses from that 87' Sunflower tie until the next Big 8 victory. K-State didn't win a Big 8 game from 1986 through 1990....between that 86' victory over KU and the 1990 win over Oklahoma State. From 1985 through 1991, K-State lost 22 consecutive conference road games.....30 consecutive road games when accounting for non-con road losses.
Obviously, it's very hard to compare era's....one era only had 11 total games per season, allowed regulation ties, and only had 7 conference games annually, 3-4 on the road every year. KU would've had a tie against Baylor, and a tie against Tech in Lubbock during their recent skid, under the old format. That being said, here are their numbers. From 2010-2013, KU lost 27 straight conference football games, just a few games shy of Baylor's conference record. The Jayhawks tallied 15 straight total losses from 2014 through 2015. To date, going back to 2008, KU has lost 36 consecutive conference road games....spanning more than 8 seasons. The Hawks also boast an impressive 43 game road losing streak (counting non-cons) dating back to 2009.
A copy and paste of the ol' masterpiece
Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen/Hayes
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 1-8 Weis
2014 1-8 Weis/Bowen
2015 0-9 Beaty
2016 1-8 Beaty
0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0 wins against Bob Stoops
1-13 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play
1 win over Oklahoma State in BigXII play
1 win over Texas A&M in BigXII play
1 win over Texas Tech in BigXII play
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
Only team in BigXII history to go winless for an entire season
Joined 2008 Washington as one of only 2 P5 programs to ever lose 12 games in a season
2 consecutive bowl seasons as a school record (tied with Indiana as a P5 low)
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 winless BigXII conference campaigns
4 non-con losses to MAC opponents in BigXII era
5 total conference wins in the past 7 seasons combined
6 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-65 against the South in BigXII play
17 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
19 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
24 non-conference losses in the BigXII era
27 game conference losing streak (2010-2013)
36 consecutive conference road losses (2008-present)
43 consecutive road losses (2009-present)
39-136 in BigXII play
49 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
87 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)
Since 2010, K-State has the same amount of conference football wins in Lawrence, KS as KU does, 4.
October 26, 1968: To tally up 100 total conference wins (moving forward) for the Hawks, you have to reach back to the 1968 season.
September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory
November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25
October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)
September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)
October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)
26 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa
36 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)
K-State football was REALLY bad when Bill Snyder took over. Decades upon decades of losing, and losing at an impressive clip. In fact, before defeated North Texas in Coach Snyder's first season (1989) the Wildcats had lost 14 straight football games, and hadn't won a football game in the previous 28 attempts. In this stretch, K-State lost 7 straight conference games from the time they beat KU in 1986 and tied KU in the 1987 "Toilet Bowl".....another 20 consecutive conference losses from that 87' Sunflower tie until the next Big 8 victory. K-State didn't win a Big 8 game from 1986 through 1990....between that 86' victory over KU and the 1990 win over Oklahoma State. From 1985 through 1991, K-State lost 22 consecutive conference road games.....30 consecutive road games when accounting for non-con road losses.
Obviously, it's very hard to compare era's....one era only had 11 total games per season, allowed regulation ties, and only had 7 conference games annually, 3-4 on the road every year. KU would've had a tie against Baylor, and a tie against Tech in Lubbock during their recent skid, under the old format. That being said, here are their numbers. From 2010-2013, KU lost 27 straight conference football games, just a few games shy of Baylor's conference record. The Jayhawks tallied 15 straight total losses from 2014 through 2015. To date, going back to 2008, KU has lost 36 consecutive conference road games....spanning more than 8 seasons. The Hawks also boast an impressive 43 game road losing streak (counting non-cons) dating back to 2009.
A copy and paste of the ol' masterpiece
Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen/Hayes
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 1-8 Weis
2014 1-8 Weis/Bowen
2015 0-9 Beaty
2016 1-8 Beaty
0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0 wins against Bob Stoops
1-13 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play
1 win over Oklahoma State in BigXII play
1 win over Texas A&M in BigXII play
1 win over Texas Tech in BigXII play
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
Only team in BigXII history to go winless for an entire season
Joined 2008 Washington as one of only 2 P5 programs to ever lose 12 games in a season
2 consecutive bowl seasons as a school record (tied with Indiana as a P5 low)
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 winless BigXII conference campaigns
4 non-con losses to MAC opponents in BigXII era
5 total conference wins in the past 7 seasons combined
6 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-65 against the South in BigXII play
17 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
19 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
24 non-conference losses in the BigXII era
27 game conference losing streak (2010-2013)
36 consecutive conference road losses (2008-present)
43 consecutive road losses (2009-present)
39-136 in BigXII play
49 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
87 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)
Since 2010, K-State has the same amount of conference football wins in Lawrence, KS as KU does, 4.
October 26, 1968: To tally up 100 total conference wins (moving forward) for the Hawks, you have to reach back to the 1968 season.
September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory
November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25
October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)
September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)
October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)
26 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa
36 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)
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